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being a former senator doesn't mean chuck hagel knows all the folks in the upper chamber. two out of five weren't even there when he was. will his meet and greet help ward off the threat of defeat for his nomination to run the pentagon? and three is a magic number. it' it's the "the daily rundown"'s third anniversary. some surprises along the way. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 11th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. boy, three years? a different part, huh? let's get to my first reads of the morning. vice president biden will present his recommendations on gun violence to the president tuesday. white house officials say an assault weapons ban will still be an element of whatever final package is proposed, despite reporting to the contrary this morning. and while in a 15-minute statement for cameras yesterday, biden emphasized an emerging consensus around a set of what he called gun safety proposals. he did not mention the assault weapons ban idea once. >> there is a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggests that we have
being a former senator doesn't mean chuck hagel knows all the folks in the upper chamber. two out of five weren't even there when he was. will his meet and greet help ward off the threat of defeat for his nomination to run the pentagon? and three is a magic number. it' it's the "the daily rundown"'s third anniversary. some surprises along the way. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 11th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. boy, three years? a...
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i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you think, john? >> i think you know the most important thing to him, the most defining moment is service in vietnam and his brother's service. he was wounded twice. once with shrapnel in the chest. if you go back to the senate testimony or on the senate foreign relations committee and debating the surge, he said if you can't take the heat, sell shoes. people ask me all the time as a jewish american that served two tours in iraq and kosovo, deployed three times, are you on this side or that side and i also answer the same thing, i'm on the side for peace. i've been in war. my brother. it goes on and on and on and defines your life and you can't extract it. chuck hagel's never been able to extract the vietnam experience and not just about war in the future and saying we'll talk to people before we fight them. it's what he did for the troops and then came home. he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids com
i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you think, john? >> i think you know the most important thing to him, the most defining moment is service in vietnam and his brother's service. he was wounded twice. once with shrapnel in the chest. if you go back to the senate testimony or on the senate foreign relations committee and debating the surge, he said if you can't take the heat, sell shoes. people ask me all the time as a jewish american...
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is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i think if the senator, that is if senator schumer were not persuaded during the confirmation that he would be willing to break with the president and it's that important. the iran issue is simply that important, but again, if i were a betting man, i would say that he'll be confirmed, that he'll satisfy the questions that have been raised, but that fate is very much in senator hagel's hands as well as in senator schumer's. >> the hearings will tell the tale. >> thanks for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> bill clinton is in haiti today. we'll take you live to the island nation still devastated from the aftermath of th
is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i think if the senator,...
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chuck hagel is a thoughtful person. he comes to his conclusions by analysis, not by knee jerk reaction or saluting any particular color. and i think that's why the president selected him. i think he'll work very, very closely with john kerry, who is a man of a similar thoughtful nature. and i think it's a powerful team. >> former national security adviser brent skowcroft, thanks, we appreciate it. >> february 15th is the x date as one bipartisan group when the government will hit its borrowing limit and when we'll see the next big government showdown over the deficit itself. the republicans have been saying they have leverage in the upcoming debt ceiling debate. but a growing body of evidence hidden in plain sooigt suggesting republican leaders are coming to -- may not be able to execute it. sir, it's great to have you with me this morning. what happens to the leverage that republicans said they had coming up in the next fight? is perception really not reality? >> no, i actually think they have a great deal of leverage.
chuck hagel is a thoughtful person. he comes to his conclusions by analysis, not by knee jerk reaction or saluting any particular color. and i think that's why the president selected him. i think he'll work very, very closely with john kerry, who is a man of a similar thoughtful nature. and i think it's a powerful team. >> former national security adviser brent skowcroft, thanks, we appreciate it. >> february 15th is the x date as one bipartisan group when the government will hit...
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this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968, it was his younger brother tom who tore his shirt open and wrapped the bandages around chuck hagel's chest to stop the bleeding. his brother saved him. his younger brother tom had also been hit by shrapnel. they spent time recovering in a field hospital after that incident. they didn't stay in the hospital long, though, because the following month, in april 1968, the two of them were back out together. they were riding in the same armored personnel carrier when it also was hit by a mine in an ambush. quoting from the book "long time passing" here, chuck instantl
this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968,...
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a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to surround himself with people he really is friends with and likes. the first term was people like hillary clinton, jim jones, bob gates. they're big names. those aren't necessarily obama allies. brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to
a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack...
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. >> i've served with chuck hagel, i know him. he is a patriot. he is somebody who's gone extraordinary work in the united states senate and served this country with valor in vietnam, and is somebody who's currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> indeed, haigle's presence on the advisory board means he's had some input into the obama administration's decision making on national security issues. >> we mentioned across the aisle there are democratic lawmaker who also have problems with hagel partly because of the israel issues, but what's the back story there? >> in 1998 the blunt-spoken mr. hagel made comments about a man president clinton had serve, the first openly gay ambassador and hagel described him as openly aggressively gay. he issued an apology and he told that he never received the apology, just the media did. and gay and lesbian advocacy groups are weighing in and count on the spectacle that official washington loves, the knockdown, dragout confirmation battle. it will be inter
. >> i've served with chuck hagel, i know him. he is a patriot. he is somebody who's gone extraordinary work in the united states senate and served this country with valor in vietnam, and is somebody who's currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> indeed, haigle's presence on the advisory board means he's had some input into the obama administration's decision making on national security issues. >> we mentioned across the aisle there...
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and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from what has happened as policy around him. he said at the time he withdrew his name from consideration in 2009 he wanted to be known as somebody who was against the iraq war, known as somebody who was against torture, enhanced techniques, specifically against water boarding. he said recently he is against the shifting of military power to the cia, treating cia effectively as an air force. he says a lot of the drone strikes should be carried out by the military, under traditional military authority so we're not doing this exotic ex
and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from...
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. >> sean: the audacity of the president was on full display with the nomination of chuck hagel, why handsdown a bad decision for the country and we'll have ted cruz in the studio next. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purche, everday! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great sinesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's
. >> sean: the audacity of the president was on full display with the nomination of chuck hagel, why handsdown a bad decision for the country and we'll have ted cruz in the studio next. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ]...
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>> we are opposing the nomination of chuck hagel first and foremost, bill because we are republicans. and as you see have seen. >> bill: so is he? >> yes there are a myriad of republicans who are coming out in opposition to a chuck hagel nomination for a myriad of reasons. secondly we are gay americans. it's incumbent to make him held accountable on gay issues. >> bill: he has apologized of course he is going to apologize. this was a tough question for you. is there a litmus test? so say somebody says, you know, the gay lifestyle, i kind of object to it because of biblical reasons and it just doesn't fit into my religious point of view. does that disqualify that person from holding an important office? >> you have to take these nominations in context. >> bill: answer that question. if somebody said, look, i object on a religious basis to homosexuality or the practice of it, does that disqualify the person from holding office? >> the fact is that you have to take each nomination, each. >> bill: it doesn't qualify him? is that what you are saying to me. >> we don't have a litmus test lo
>> we are opposing the nomination of chuck hagel first and foremost, bill because we are republicans. and as you see have seen. >> bill: so is he? >> yes there are a myriad of republicans who are coming out in opposition to a chuck hagel nomination for a myriad of reasons. secondly we are gay americans. it's incumbent to make him held accountable on gay issues. >> bill: he has apologized of course he is going to apologize. this was a tough question for you. is there a...
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chuck hagel's nomination represents a clean break. i think that's very scary for a lot of these neocons. >> let me go to peter. i have always respected the way your brain works. you think a lot, which is a good thing for a writer to do occasionally is to think. you think and you really change your mind, which is very refreshing. and i think you've wrestled with these issues of the middle east, and i guess the question is if you get hagel in there, aren't you basically getting barack obama with a war record? what's the difference between barack obama and hagel? >> i think the difference between barack obama and hagel is that hagel says publicly some of the things that barack obama only thinks privately. and hagel would be to this administration what eisenhower was in the '50s and what colin powell was in the 1990s. the guy who has seen war really up close and doesn't allow any of his colleagues to imagine that once you launch a war, that you can control what happens afterwards. that's what eisenhower used to say again and again. you're
chuck hagel's nomination represents a clean break. i think that's very scary for a lot of these neocons. >> let me go to peter. i have always respected the way your brain works. you think a lot, which is a good thing for a writer to do occasionally is to think. you think and you really change your mind, which is very refreshing. and i think you've wrestled with these issues of the middle east, and i guess the question is if you get hagel in there, aren't you basically getting barack obama...
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big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's happened and chuck hagel has not moved with it. part of what's happening, some sense a lot of republicans talked about the israel question, a personal pique in the case of some people and john mccain may be one of them. >> really? >> joe made that point yesterday. there's some people in washington who personally don't like chuck hagel. they may actually like him personally but he rubbed some people the wrong way in the course of doing politics in d.c. what do you think is going on here with someone like senator mccain say
big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's...
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just yesterday, he nominated former senator chuck hagel to head the pentagon. hagel is the very man that suggested another president's mentors joe biden for vice president back in 2008 and nominated john kerry for secretary of state. think lincoln's team of rivals with a twist. >> you'll begin your second term a semi divine stature. imagine the possibilities peace will bring. why tarnish with a battle in the house? it's a rat's nest in there. talented hicks and hack that is rejected the amendment ten months ago will lose. >> i like our chances now. >> president's not quite starting the second term with economy divine status and battles ahead so how could the appointments shape white house policy? today is michael hirsh. >> michael, so it's not exactly team of rivals i guess with chuck hagel defense secretary and obama and hagel never really rivals. hagel is one of the allies from the other side, sort of from the beginning and wanted to ask you about the roots of the relationship. we see reporting to refer back to the 2008 trip in the campaign that they took to
just yesterday, he nominated former senator chuck hagel to head the pentagon. hagel is the very man that suggested another president's mentors joe biden for vice president back in 2008 and nominated john kerry for secretary of state. think lincoln's team of rivals with a twist. >> you'll begin your second term a semi divine stature. imagine the possibilities peace will bring. why tarnish with a battle in the house? it's a rat's nest in there. talented hicks and hack that is rejected the...
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lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense of israel. i went to the middle east with senator hagel and heard him talk about having the strength of having america defend israel. my take on end of the day, senator schumer critically will probably do what he did once for america, defend that that is best for national security interests. i think he's going to be key and you'll see in these hearings that chuck hagel, former enlisted man for vietnam will get this nomination because of what he will do for america's security. >> based on what admiral sestak just said, politico is reporting sayin
lends credibility to the nomination of chuck hagel. but there are key senators like senator chuck schumer that will make a big difference. with regard to senator schumer, i cannot speak more highly than senator schumer. i was seeking the aim accusations when i was running as senator of pennsylvania in 2010. senator schumer called me and came in to philadelphia and met with the jewish literee leaders having understood having been in the military, we would have laid down our lives for the defense...
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a big boost for chuck hagel's bid to become the next defense secretary. new york senator chuck shuker today publicly backing hagel for the first time. the endorsement after they met for 90 minutes at the white house yesterday and california senator barbara boxer also come out in support of the nomination. hagel reached out to all 100 senators and plan to meet individually with dozens of the members in the weeks leading up to his confirmation hearing. turn to capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. i imagine the schumer news good news, not that he would not support hagel, but obviously, people were following the lead at least in tone from the beginning of all of this. >> reporter: well, chuck schumer expressed real concerns about some of the positions that chuck hagel held, and certainly, they knew each other over time. their paths crossed and really chuck schumer wanted an opportunity to have a face to face meeting. he made that request. as you point out, they met at the white house. they spent a considerable amount of time and a couple of issues that
a big boost for chuck hagel's bid to become the next defense secretary. new york senator chuck shuker today publicly backing hagel for the first time. the endorsement after they met for 90 minutes at the white house yesterday and california senator barbara boxer also come out in support of the nomination. hagel reached out to all 100 senators and plan to meet individually with dozens of the members in the weeks leading up to his confirmation hearing. turn to capitol hill correspondent kelly...
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the thing you hear about chuck hagel when you call around, chuck hagel didn't do lunch, literally. he didn't go to the weekly lunches. >> and you served with him. do you think that there's -- usually, there's always deference to former senators. >> there's not that much deference. but i don't think it will be a cakewalk. they know what they're doing and i think they make a tremendous bet. but i also think that, you know, the thinks that they're bringing up, he's addressed them. he's a veteran. people know that he is not going to be the one that one that makes -- you know, he's not going a rogue defense secretary. he's going to be advising the president. >> do you think there would be a filibuster, though? do you think republicans would filibuster? or do you think that maybe that will be a bridge that republicans who don't vote for him but vote to move him? >> i'm going to echo senator schumer and say it's too soon. my bet would be against the filibuster and confirmation. >> meaning, he'll basically say, democrats are going to confirm. but republicans are not going to prevent the vo
the thing you hear about chuck hagel when you call around, chuck hagel didn't do lunch, literally. he didn't go to the weekly lunches. >> and you served with him. do you think that there's -- usually, there's always deference to former senators. >> there's not that much deference. but i don't think it will be a cakewalk. they know what they're doing and i think they make a tremendous bet. but i also think that, you know, the thinks that they're bringing up, he's addressed them. he's...
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as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment, heilmann and then take it to ben. we have to pull a sound bite from lindsey graham accusing him of not being mainstream to try and sum up this resentment. tell me what this resentment is. who is it? by whom? what's the problem? list them for me. >> will you please stop interrupting him? >> i want to hear the names. >> and just let him talk. >> graham, maybe mcconnell, maybe. >> the guy who screwed up earlier this morning. that was horrible. >> to me it comes down to two words. >> let mihim talk. this makes me sad. >> he gave appear interview in 2006 i
as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment,...
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i am glad that obama picked chuck hagel. it is about time we got a real american hero that does not have to be vetted by cowards like lindsay gramm and the apac crowd. why doesn't he moved to israel and joined the knesset because many of us don't feel like he feels about israel and their politicians should not have to be vetted by a coward like lieberman or lindsey graham. host: why are you calling them a coward? caller: it is all about israel to these clowns and i am sick of it. we give these people $3 billion per year and all they do is give us guff. that is why. host: we are taking your phone calls this morning. about foreign policy challenges in 2013. this is the opening section of "usa today" - >there are other stories in noting that the former senator, chuck hagel, when he was in office, approved about $38 billion in aid for the jewish state along with multiple trips to beat -- to meet with leaders there. that is a little bit of background on chuck hagel. david, indianapolis, democratic caller -- caller: good morning.
i am glad that obama picked chuck hagel. it is about time we got a real american hero that does not have to be vetted by cowards like lindsay gramm and the apac crowd. why doesn't he moved to israel and joined the knesset because many of us don't feel like he feels about israel and their politicians should not have to be vetted by a coward like lieberman or lindsey graham. host: why are you calling them a coward? caller: it is all about israel to these clowns and i am sick of it. we give these...
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chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg. he was the first openly gay ambassador. appointed by president clinton in 1998. i was at the state department when jim hormel was sworn in bid a lynn albright -- by madeleine albright and tim wu, his partner was there when he was sworn in. we were all in tears watching that historic moment. at the time, chuck hagel said he didn't deserve to be ambassador because he was openly gay and that sent the wrong message. he wouldn't be able to represent all of the people of the united states. i resent that he said that. he was dead wrong but
chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg....
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he's a no-go. >> a rabbi who has known chuck hagel for 25 years is joining me on the phone. thank you, rabbi. it sounds you don't agree with them. first of all, is he a friend of zrael zm. >> he's definitely a friend of israel. he's independent, has wonderful, fresh ideas to try to reengage the discussion about the middle east. i have known him for really before he ran for senate in omaha, nebraska. i met him in 1996, and he was interested before he ran for the senate to the learn more from me. i grew up in israel, was born there, and it was an amazing relationship that started and developed in the last 20 years. and i think that -- i support him wholeheartedly. >> rabbi, among the things he has said is he said that the israel lobby controls certain politicians in washington. he's also said that washington should be negotiating with hamas, which doesn't even recognize the state of israel. these are kind of con trof-- controversial and yet you talk about fresh ideas. what are they? >> i think he's interested in opening some doors for conversations that has never happened befo
he's a no-go. >> a rabbi who has known chuck hagel for 25 years is joining me on the phone. thank you, rabbi. it sounds you don't agree with them. first of all, is he a friend of zrael zm. >> he's definitely a friend of israel. he's independent, has wonderful, fresh ideas to try to reengage the discussion about the middle east. i have known him for really before he ran for senate in omaha, nebraska. i met him in 1996, and he was interested before he ran for the senate to the learn...
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. >> reporter: hagel does have the most important supporter. >> i served with chuck hagel. i know him. he is a patriot. >> reporter: the president will have a fight on his hand with the nomination and among democrats his own party which controls the senate and confirmation process. one of the reasons the white house was telling senate democrats this nomination is coming, hoping to soften the blow. david kerley, abc news, the white house. >>> in other news this morning -- secretary of state hillary clinton is returning to work today for the first time in a month. of course, she was side lined by a stomach virus, concussion, and most recently a blood clot in her head that landed her in the hospital for three days. clinton's schedule includes nearly a dozen meetings this week. it's not clear when she will testified about the benghazi attack as she promised. of course, she will step down in a few weeks and senator john kerry expected to take over. >>> rare speech from syrian president bashar assad has drawn a quick and blunt reaction from the obama administration. a defiant ass
. >> reporter: hagel does have the most important supporter. >> i served with chuck hagel. i know him. he is a patriot. >> reporter: the president will have a fight on his hand with the nomination and among democrats his own party which controls the senate and confirmation process. one of the reasons the white house was telling senate democrats this nomination is coming, hoping to soften the blow. david kerley, abc news, the white house. >>> in other news this morning...
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he wants republicans to look more like chuck hagel. he wants them to be more moderate, wants them to be less in favor of big, strong u.s. military presence. so, he is trying to tell the republicans how they ought to be. that's part of it. but the biggest part is, the president has decided, and he made it very clear in the discussions over the tax increases that went into play since the beginning of this year, he's made it very clear thatore mr. nice guy and hs going to have things his way and having seen susan rice, who was widely speculated to be his choice for secretary of state, to see her have to withdraw her potential nomination, the president, i think, decided he's going to make it stick and make the republicans choke on it when it comes to chuck hagel. >> megyn: now, brennan, he's, you know, going to take over for petraeus at the cia and he's had a long history at the cia, apparently some feathers were ruffled and some weren't, whatever. but the thing about brennan,'s been in an important position, top advisor on counterterroris
he wants republicans to look more like chuck hagel. he wants them to be more moderate, wants them to be less in favor of big, strong u.s. military presence. so, he is trying to tell the republicans how they ought to be. that's part of it. but the biggest part is, the president has decided, and he made it very clear in the discussions over the tax increases that went into play since the beginning of this year, he's made it very clear thatore mr. nice guy and hs going to have things his way and...
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it seems that chuck schumer is the key to chuck hagel's failure or success. tell us why. >> that's right. and first we have to do happy friday. >> happy friday. >> happy friday. >> boy, do we need that. >> and this is a surprise. senator schumer has been telling his allies in new york, especially jewish groups, that would be, quote, very hard, very hard for him to support chuck hagel for pentagon head because of his positions on israel the other day. the real canary in the coal mine on the trouble that the hagel nomination has faced was on "meet the press" several weaks ago when senator schumer surprisingly wouldn't commit to supporting him. and usually when the president has a nominee, favorite nominee, a name out there, the number three democrat in the senate, chuck schumer, is going to say sure, i'll support him. he said he's going to listen for the hearings. and that's where he still is. just wednesday at a private breakfast at park avenue winter, one of those fancy restaurants up there, senator schumer was saying that he was very uneasy about senator hag
it seems that chuck schumer is the key to chuck hagel's failure or success. tell us why. >> that's right. and first we have to do happy friday. >> happy friday. >> happy friday. >> boy, do we need that. >> and this is a surprise. senator schumer has been telling his allies in new york, especially jewish groups, that would be, quote, very hard, very hard for him to support chuck hagel for pentagon head because of his positions on israel the other day. the real...
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the big story tonight is the president's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fair thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. the right wing doesn't like his approach to military action. they're raring to go. he's restrained, skeptical of what war can achieve, like anwar sadat, yitzhak rabin. the g.i.s have to do the actual fighting. so when you watch the hearings, think of the americans out there on post tonight all alone in a place far from home. give some thought to the possibility they'd like to have a pentagon chief who knows just what that's like. and that's "hardball for now," thanks for being with us. the ed show with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening and welcome to new york. the republicans are wining about the president's choice for defense secretary. tonight a reminder of who won the election and why this is the perfect guy. let's get to work. >> chuck hagel is th
the big story tonight is the president's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fair thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. the right wing doesn't like his approach to military action. they're raring to go. he's restrained, skeptical of what war can achieve, like anwar sadat, yitzhak rabin. the g.i.s have to do the actual...
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. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> president obama nominates chuck hagel as defense secretary, and conservatives are fuming. >> positions that he has taken over the years will be, i think very much a matter of discussion. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine circumstance in which i could support his confirmation. >> admiral joe sestak and richard wolffe are here on the road to confirmation and what this could mean for defense cuts. >>> republicans are coming out for the government shutdown. >> you think that's a good idea? >> yes, i do. >> you really do? >> yes. >> john nichols on their backwards reasoning. >>> mcdonnell doesn't mind another hostage situation for the deficit, at the expense of the most vulnerable. david cay johnston lays out the gop fabricated spending problem ahead. >>> the opposition on gun control reaches heated extremes. >> i don't think the federal government has any business having a list of
. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> president obama nominates chuck hagel as defense secretary, and conservatives are fuming. >> positions that he has taken over the years will be, i think very much a matter of discussion. >> this is an in-your-face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine circumstance in which i could support his confirmation. >> admiral joe...
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what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's going to be great theater. there's no doubt about that. but in the end, i think he's going to get it. >> explain to me why mitch mcconnell, who not long ago was saying hagel is one of the premier foreign policy voices and one of the giants in the united states senate. he stands with him philosophically 90% of the time. he's an indispensable member of the republican team. that was then. now he says, he'll be given a fair hearing, and you have john mccain saying, to allege that hagel is somehow a republican, that's a hard one to swallo
what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's...
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it is chuck hagel. meantime senators dick durbin says hagel would be a fine candidate for that job. >> hagel was a republican senator from nebraska a decorated veteran of the vietnam war, a person who has a resume that includes service on the foreign relations committee as well as the intelligence committee. yes, he's a serious candidate if the president chooses to name him. >>> james rosen has details. what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. when you pay to interview david miller who became an author and commentary, tabling el, they intimidate a lot of people. i favored direct talks with iran in an effort to get the european union. >> he is consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemies with respect to the nation of iran he has opposed sanctions over and over again and the job of the secretary of defense is to be a deterrent. i think weakness in the secretary of defense invites conflict because bullies don't respect weakness. >>> a number of gop foreign poli
it is chuck hagel. meantime senators dick durbin says hagel would be a fine candidate for that job. >> hagel was a republican senator from nebraska a decorated veteran of the vietnam war, a person who has a resume that includes service on the foreign relations committee as well as the intelligence committee. yes, he's a serious candidate if the president chooses to name him. >>> james rosen has details. what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. when...
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with chuck hagel. list the criteria that a secretary of defense should have, especially if you're a republican. chuck is a republican. chuck hagel has it. how can they even say that they have reservations about chuck hagel or what are their reservations? >> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name only. he hasn't really stayed with the party line. if you look back as recently as this last election cycle, he endorsed bob kerrey, a democrat over deb fischer, a republican in that senate race. most of the ire and scrutiny coming from republicans when it comes to chuck hagel. views in the middle east. on iran, on israel. that is the point that many of these -- many of these republican senators including many who sat on the senate armed services committee simply will not back away from. >> as far as -- you deal with a
with chuck hagel. list the criteria that a secretary of defense should have, especially if you're a republican. chuck is a republican. chuck hagel has it. how can they even say that they have reservations about chuck hagel or what are their reservations? >> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name...
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retired general stanley mcchrystal on chuck hagel. the exit strategy from afghanistan and his own career. >>> plus, show stopper. president clinton he should the standing ovation with his surprise appearance on "lincoln" at the golden globes. >> in "lincoln" we see a man more interesting than the legend and a far better guide for future presidents. >> exciting special guest. that was hillary clinton's husband. >> that was bill clinton. >> that was. >> it was bill rodham clinton. >> that's right. >>> and ben affleck finally gets his just due for "argo." >> it's an extraordinary thing in your life. these nominees are exceptional talents. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. thanks for joining us. president obama used the final press conference of his first term in office to draw a line in the sand on debt ceiling compromises. joining me now for our daily fix cris alissa, msnbc contributor of post politics.com, chuck todd, nbc news chief white house correspondent, political director, host of the daily rundown and question
retired general stanley mcchrystal on chuck hagel. the exit strategy from afghanistan and his own career. >>> plus, show stopper. president clinton he should the standing ovation with his surprise appearance on "lincoln" at the golden globes. >> in "lincoln" we see a man more interesting than the legend and a far better guide for future presidents. >> exciting special guest. that was hillary clinton's husband. >> that was bill clinton. >>...
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>> well, i think we see already with the chuck hagel nomination, which a lot of democrats don't like, i see that as a way that obama is actually trying to shove a wedge into the many divides that we see right now in the gop. the gop is saying no in part because that's the system of our governance. it's not a hole in our democracy, it's a design, that we're restraining those who want to use government to its maximum capability. however, saying no isn't necessarily popular and you need to say yes to something. republicans are legitimately divided amongst themselves about what they want to say yes to, so when you nominate someone like hagel, you let republicans fight each other about republican issues, so i think that's how you're going to see the president do it. that said, you can't run the entire country without the house of representatives, so obama is going to have to make compromises. >> ari, i want to move to you on this. you really sort of discussing hopefully a move towards pragmatism, towards the middle, remembering of that collaboration that we did see some bits of towards the
>> well, i think we see already with the chuck hagel nomination, which a lot of democrats don't like, i see that as a way that obama is actually trying to shove a wedge into the many divides that we see right now in the gop. the gop is saying no in part because that's the system of our governance. it's not a hole in our democracy, it's a design, that we're restraining those who want to use government to its maximum capability. however, saying no isn't necessarily popular and you need to...
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we should be concerned about this appointment because of chuck hagel's soft attitude toward iran believing we shouldn't apply sanctions we should have unconditional conversations with these terrorists and somehow if we make nice with them they won't build a bomb and point it at everybody but themselves. at the same time, while we are going soft, senator hagel has been one who has been harsh on israel. i think he has got it mixed up. at least i think so. finally a source, teacher taking fire on symbolism a little too far. here is how maggie cope palestinian one of his students described the lesson plan he was teaching its symbols. cross symbolizes christianity. then he took the flag i took the flag symbol of america cloth with colors on it and he threw it on the ground and stomped on it. >> threw the flag on the ground because it's just a symbol. just cloth. you know, when general when general mcchrystal sitting here with me and how many times somebody pointed a weapon at him trying to kill him because he was defending that piece of cloth? i didn't think anybody has a right to stomp on it a
we should be concerned about this appointment because of chuck hagel's soft attitude toward iran believing we shouldn't apply sanctions we should have unconditional conversations with these terrorists and somehow if we make nice with them they won't build a bomb and point it at everybody but themselves. at the same time, while we are going soft, senator hagel has been one who has been harsh on israel. i think he has got it mixed up. at least i think so. finally a source, teacher taking fire on...
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the debate over former senate chuck hagel's confirmation is on. then the golden globes air tomorrow. we'll take an inside look at what happens when you -- well, this is totally different, when you drop a camera from space. you could say it's out of this world. the big whoops coming up. >>> we're continuing the discussion we started before the break. president obama's choice to be the next secretary of defense is finding himself, well, on the defensive. chuck hagel is the former republican senator and vietnam war veteran. he has been tapped to replace leon panetta, about you a remark he made in 1976 about an openly gay ambassador has drawn fire of gay and lesbian groups. we're joined by heather kronk who is the managing director of get equal for lesbian and gay americans. and i'll point out both of you are gay. you disagree though on mr. hagel. so thank you both for joining us. let's listen first to what the president had to say about chuck hagel and then we'll talk on the other side. >> chuck haig's leadership of our military would be historic. he
the debate over former senate chuck hagel's confirmation is on. then the golden globes air tomorrow. we'll take an inside look at what happens when you -- well, this is totally different, when you drop a camera from space. you could say it's out of this world. the big whoops coming up. >>> we're continuing the discussion we started before the break. president obama's choice to be the next secretary of defense is finding himself, well, on the defensive. chuck hagel is the former...
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chuck schumer, the senator from new york, seen as key to chuck hagel becoming secretary has confirmed he will support the former nebraska senator, despite some controversial comments in the past on israel, iran and the jewish lobby. many people consider chuck schumer's support as absolutely critical, that he couldn't probably get confirmed if he did not have chuck schumer's support. let mess bring in lo receipta sanchez how significant do you believe this decision is. >> chuck schumer is a very bright guy, and i think it's a very good coupe for umer senator hagel to get his endorsements. honestly, unless you really want to gum up the senate, i see the former senator being confirmed. >> let me go back to guns now. i'm sure you'd heard the discussions by now, concern by some that the president may be overreaching? >> it will be interesting i think the whole shy has to not only be approached by the congress, but the sharing of information. so how he does it, what laws exist that allow or don't allow it will be interesting. but i remember when patrick kennedy was for years trying to get p
chuck schumer, the senator from new york, seen as key to chuck hagel becoming secretary has confirmed he will support the former nebraska senator, despite some controversial comments in the past on israel, iran and the jewish lobby. many people consider chuck schumer's support as absolutely critical, that he couldn't probably get confirmed if he did not have chuck schumer's support. let mess bring in lo receipta sanchez how significant do you believe this decision is. >> chuck schumer is...
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he opposed the war longer than chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel did. same thing with one of the few republican senators. after the war started he began to rethink his view of the world. it's not only about iran. the other thing is that obama wants someone to bring the defense department back into focus. >> is this a smaller foreign policy? >> i think it is. you can completely separate it, wall it off from all considerations about the national debt. chuck hagel doesn't see it that way. he's a lot like dwight eisenhower who drove the defense budget down quite dramatically. he believed america's real power was its fiscal health. >> a lot of fire around hagel has to do with israel and the lack of support for israel. let's listen to what john cornyn said. >> comments with the so-called jewish lobby, which seems to denigrate the efforts of pro-israel individuals, myself included, who view that relationship as a special relationship one that is important to our national security and stability in the region. >> is this a real problem for hagel? >> this is real
he opposed the war longer than chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel did. same thing with one of the few republican senators. after the war started he began to rethink his view of the world. it's not only about iran. the other thing is that obama wants someone to bring the defense department back into focus. >> is this a smaller foreign policy? >> i think it is. you can completely separate it, wall it off from all considerations about the national debt. chuck hagel doesn't see it that...
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where does chuck hagel really stand? what is myth and what is fact? our next guest, aaron david miller, former advisor to six secretaries of state. great to see you. this whole thing is your fault. >> no good deed goes unpunished. >> gregg: explain to us it was your interview. in which he said the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people. that remark led people to accuse him of being hostile to israel but in your column this week and the washington post you argue that is myth. how so? >> chuck hagel isn't a gushing zionist but he is not an enemy of the state of israel. he believes in a relationship with the jewish state and the voting record in terms of $40 billion over the years is testament to that fact. he just doesn't believe in having an exclusive relationship with the israelis and every policy they pursue is scrutinized or criticism. he is is a republican realist in the mode of george h.w. bush, james baker. more important than that, the reality is, i think this fight really isn't about hagel at all. it's about the president because the presiden
where does chuck hagel really stand? what is myth and what is fact? our next guest, aaron david miller, former advisor to six secretaries of state. great to see you. this whole thing is your fault. >> no good deed goes unpunished. >> gregg: explain to us it was your interview. in which he said the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people. that remark led people to accuse him of being hostile to israel but in your column this week and the washington post you argue that is myth. how...
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dana, i want to begin with the chuck hagel nomination. you have come out with a pretty stark defense. you write of the disparaging claments republicans are making against him and quoting you, most of that is false and the rest is irrelevant. now, what did you mean by this because wee keep being told by conservative that is mr. hagel is a homophobic, anti-semitic lover of hamas. >> the interesting thing is when senator hagel was a republican senator, various of his colleagues, republican senators, had a very high view of his foreign policy credentials, including senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. now that he's actually been tapped by this democraticed a m, they have some problems and they have to check into his record. even a guy that was one of them before, once he is blessed by president obama is persona nongrata among the congressional republicans. they're going to have a tough time i think making the case against chuck hagel who was twice wounded in vietnam as an enlisted man going up against the chicken hawks of the united stat
dana, i want to begin with the chuck hagel nomination. you have come out with a pretty stark defense. you write of the disparaging claments republicans are making against him and quoting you, most of that is false and the rest is irrelevant. now, what did you mean by this because wee keep being told by conservative that is mr. hagel is a homophobic, anti-semitic lover of hamas. >> the interesting thing is when senator hagel was a republican senator, various of his colleagues, republican...
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the conversation was about chuck hagel and colin powell's support for chuck hagel, and he's being questioned about chuck hagel talking about the jewish lobby, and colin powell said that's a slip of the tongue, that happens. he meant the israeli lobby. so he's correct to defend chuck hagel, for a phrase that many saw as anti-semitic and intolerant. and not sarah palin. >> i thought you were going to break out the aggressively gay comment made by chuck hagel. before we get to l.z.'s viewpoint, i want to hear what jay carney said, one of the president's men. listen. >> i'm going to shuck and jive. time to shuck and jive. that's the super secret book. >> so, l.z., jay carney, the white house spokesman, said shuck and jive too. doesn't that muddy the waters a bit? >> no, of course not. it all depends upon who is saying it, what is the phrase is -- who the phrase is directed toward, and what is its intent? in the sarah palin incident, she was blowing a dog whistle. with carney, he was just referring to himself. those are two different things. i want to back up to some of the things that will talke
the conversation was about chuck hagel and colin powell's support for chuck hagel, and he's being questioned about chuck hagel talking about the jewish lobby, and colin powell said that's a slip of the tongue, that happens. he meant the israeli lobby. so he's correct to defend chuck hagel, for a phrase that many saw as anti-semitic and intolerant. and not sarah palin. >> i thought you were going to break out the aggressively gay comment made by chuck hagel. before we get to l.z.'s...
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he tapped former republican senator chuck hagel for defense secretary. and anti-terrorism chief john brennan for cia director. controversy surrounds hagel because of opposition to troop surges in iraq and afghanistan, and some of his positions on israel. the president cited one main reason for both of his picks. >> my number one criteria in making these decisions was simple, who is going to do the best job in securing america? these two leaders have dedicated their lives to protecting our country. i'm confident they will do an outstanding job. i urge the senate to confirm them as soon as possible so we can keep our nation secure and the american people safe. >> now, there's something to be said for how a president picks cabinet nominees, cabinet secretaries, in his second term. let's bring in author and presidential historian, douglas brinkley, professor of history, fellow at rice university and author of a thousand books, last i checked. thank you for being with us. as you just heard, the president wanted to be seen as tough, particularly as tough on te
he tapped former republican senator chuck hagel for defense secretary. and anti-terrorism chief john brennan for cia director. controversy surrounds hagel because of opposition to troop surges in iraq and afghanistan, and some of his positions on israel. the president cited one main reason for both of his picks. >> my number one criteria in making these decisions was simple, who is going to do the best job in securing america? these two leaders have dedicated their lives to protecting our...
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of the president nominating the former republican senator senator chuck hagel from nebraska. he earned two purple hearts. still has pieces of shrapnel in his chest. he would be the first vietnam veteran and the first enlisted soldier to serve as secretary of defense. >> as a young private and then a sergeant, he served with honor alongside his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. >> shepard: some of senator hagel's fellow republicans say they can't support him because of his record on israel and iran. and some democrats say they are concerned about a comment that senator hagel made more than a decade ago about a gay nominee to the u.s. ambassador. more on that in a moment. the president also choosing his top counter terrorism advisor john brennan to be cia director. calling him a legendary work aalcoholic even during presidential vacations. >> in the summer, it's august. he is in full suit and tie. [ laughter ] and one of the reporters asked him don't you ever g
of the president nominating the former republican senator senator chuck hagel from nebraska. he earned two purple hearts. still has pieces of shrapnel in his chest. he would be the first vietnam veteran and the first enlisted soldier to serve as secretary of defense. >> as a young private and then a sergeant, he served with honor alongside his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to...
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how big a push does hagel get from chuck schumer's endorsement? earlier in the week there was some ambivalence from chuck schumer, wasn't there? >> reporter: absolutely. i think hagel get a big push. i think a lot of eyes were on chuck schumer to see what he decides. he met with hagel. the two sat down at the white house, had a long meeting, and chuck schumer came out of that meeting essentially saying he now supports hagel's nomination for secretary of defense. one of the key points he makes is that he feels as though hagel has shifted positions on some of these controversial issues and comments that he brought up in the past, on iran, on israel, and he specifically says that hagel now understands the fact that israel is in a more endangered spot than it was, essentially acknowledging the administration's position which is that iran has gotten closer to acquiring nuclear weapons, so hagel basically telling schumer he would support unilateral action on iran, would not take any option off the table as it pertains to iran around understands some of
how big a push does hagel get from chuck schumer's endorsement? earlier in the week there was some ambivalence from chuck schumer, wasn't there? >> reporter: absolutely. i think hagel get a big push. i think a lot of eyes were on chuck schumer to see what he decides. he met with hagel. the two sat down at the white house, had a long meeting, and chuck schumer came out of that meeting essentially saying he now supports hagel's nomination for secretary of defense. one of the key points he...
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if it's a counter terror mission, the vice president wanted where chuck hagel is going. what's happening in the next 24 months? we have a lot of officers embedded with afghan units to protect a security blanket. at what point do we transition off and go to an assist and what is our relationship post 2014? we can leave contractors on the ground, but iraq didn't deteriorate like people said. there have been no attacks since they left. i'm happy with where we are at. i hope we go to and put the pressure on the afghans. there is a type of stalemate. >> there is the hope, but what is the reality pointing to the continued effort or whatever role we would have as you pointed out s. how realistic is that in afghanistan? >> i don't think we go to zero because there will be a counter trr mission. there is a mission in the afghan and pakistan region. is it a suffice counter terror force with a force package? that takes us out of the nation building and the embedded with the afghan force. we are embedded with that force. we go to an operational level, the president has given us a th
if it's a counter terror mission, the vice president wanted where chuck hagel is going. what's happening in the next 24 months? we have a lot of officers embedded with afghan units to protect a security blanket. at what point do we transition off and go to an assist and what is our relationship post 2014? we can leave contractors on the ground, but iraq didn't deteriorate like people said. there have been no attacks since they left. i'm happy with where we are at. i hope we go to and put the...
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and nominated chuck hagel as defense secretary and the treasury secretary nomination would round out the president's cabinet and stay with fox news annel for the latest on this breaking news story. and straight ahead, a shocking rape case that's ripping apart a small town. the accused two high school football players and now disturbing video has gone viral and inciting outrage across the nation. that's next. new information tonight about that infamous map showing where gun owners live and the...